10 Inch Sliding Miter Saw Head to Head

Makita LS1016L

The Makita LS1016L was a crew favorite during our test, and caught everyone’s eye with it’s innovative dual rail forward facing slide mechanism that reduces the saws footprint and delivered smooth operation. Additionally, the miter and bevel detents were fast, accurate, and the miter range on the saw swings 60-degrees both left and right making this an extremely capable saw. Overall the Makita LS1016L really shined in this test and priced at $497 this saw epitomizes “bang for your buck”.

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The LS1016L showcases some unique features and innovative design elements that make this saw really memorable. But this saw doesn’t rely on it’s sexy design, the performance of this saw was as notable as it’s look. The Makita LS1016L showcased its power in our speed test winning handily. And despite the saws weight about 54 lbs, it collapses nicely for transportation, so during our mobility test we noted its weight but because it was so well balanced and compact it made for a relatively easy carry.

This saw stood out to our crew for it’s ease of use, power, and accuracy. There were so many positives about this tool combined with it’s innovative design and overall sleek look no one on our crew mentioned it’s poor dust collection performance. Ranking side by side with the Bosch CM10GD at the bottom of the field, you may want to consider how important dust control is for you before you pull the trigger on this saw. Overall not a deal breaker for most, but if you want to learn more check out Phil’s review on TBB coming soon.

RYOBI TSS102L

RYOBI’s TSS102L is definitely geared toward the homeowner or DIYer. Although the saw does have some high end features, solid cut capacity with the slide and above average dust collection, it has limited use for professional contractors. Still, priced super competitively at about $200 it is the most affordable saw featured in our test and therefore is worth considering if you are looking to buy your first saw or want to upgrade to a more capable DIY saw.

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Where the TSS102L falls short for pros is in its miter and bevel range and overall performance. With the ability to only bevel in one direction, a fixed fence, and max miters of 45-degrees in both directions this saw just doesn’t have the flexibility to be effective on a professional jobsite. Additionally, the saw performed poorly in our speed test, showing it’s limited capability up against engineered lumber. Again this saw is designed with the homeowner in mind, the slide provides the basic cut capacity, the bevel allows for compound cuts, and the laser enhances speed and accuracy, overall these are nice features for a DIY tool, but doesn’t have the depth for the pro contractor.

The TSS102L is really light weight, has the basic requirements for a contractor grade tools, and is extremely affordable. But ultimately the RYOBI TSS102L is geared for a homeowner looking to purchase a capable saw at a great price.

About the author

Philip Benevides

Phil is a 28-year old Air Force Veteran who decided to transform his passion for construction and home improvement into a career. Inspired by his Grandfather who built his home from the ground up with his bare hands in Portugal, he received his formal training in Carpentry at the North Bennett Street School in Boston, MA. Phil continues to grow his skills as a lead carpenter, managing job sites in and around Boston, and a Captain in the Air National Guard bettering himself as a leader. He loves exploring new building products and construction methods to solve job-site problems and reviewing tools for the pro-contractor and serious DIYer.

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16 Comments

  1. […] know the guys at ToolBoxBuzz have been hard at work on this 10” Sliding Miter Saw compareo with 7 of the most popular brands. […]

  2. Good to see this, although I’m surprised to NOT see the Rigid saw. I’d like to raise three concerns:

    Power test: Your power test is valid only in the “as purchased configuration”, which means using the stock blade. A proper power test would have used identical new aftermarket blades in order to eliminate a variable based on a consumable.

    Accuracy: What the heck? No ranking for accuracy?

    User Friendliness: How much of a pain is it to change the blade? Nifty power cord like Festool, or troublesome fixed cord that is a pain to replace when some tool (i.e. fool on a jobsite) drops a dozer blade on it? Ease of dialing in the bevels. Etc. Think of all the little usage things that have annoyed you about sliders in the past, and then evaluate these saws against those considerations.

    1. Todd Fratzel

      BikerDad – Couple things. The Ridgid wasn’t included because they didn’t want to enter the mix. Their 10″ sliding compound saw is actually built by another company that licenses the Brand for their saw.

      We agree with the power comparison, however, when we’ve tried to compare saws in the past using identical blades it makes the comparison even harder. No doubt the blade is probably the biggest factor. What we were striving for his is the best out of box comparison we could achieve.

      We could do an entire week of testing on accuracy and likely not do it justice. We did look at the accuracy out of the box (noted in the article) of how well the saw was set up at the factory for squareness. With this many saws we do our best to give an overview comparison.

      I think if you read carefully you’ll see that we pointed out these type of issues. For example, the Bosch has a big leg up on the competition with it’s upfront bevel controls.

      Really appreciate the feedback, certainly all very valid points that we’ll consider for the next comparison. The more we dive into these comparisons the more we quickly realize that unless we have a staff of 20, and weeks of time, we can’t possibly do a full blown research project. Thanks for sharing!

      1. Owen

        Hi Todd, what company builds the Ridgid saw? I am trying to source one here in Australia and trying to work out if it has been rebranded something different again on our shelves

        1. Todd Fratzel

          Typically the saws are sourced from TTI. The saw that was mentioned in this article I’m not sure who the manufacturer is. Wish I could be of more assistance. Good luck.

      2. Ern

        I concur. As a professional carpenter, the very first thing I look for is accuracy. I need consistent 45’s and 90’s, the second is power, then crosscut length maximums, then price. What good is a saw if accuracy isnt prioritized.

  3. William Abel

    I have owned dewalt makita hitachi saws over the last thirty years, I due custom kitchens for a living and purchased a festool kapex 6 months ago.I wish i had bought it 5 years ago when it came out.Yeah it is a lot of money ,but i am a better craftsmen when using it. so much cleaner then my dewalt or makita and the cut is outstanding. Durability ? I have not owned it long enough yet,but if it is like my festool drills then I will be more then satisfied. I have a five year old t drill and the batteries are as good as new, dewalt panasonic bosch, lasted 3 years at best.

  4. John Monju

    I think that another catagory should be the quality and precision of the slide mechenism. The amount of slop, the smoothness,or extreem lack of smoothness in several brands, is a very important element in the overall quality of a SCMS. Vertical cut capacity is also an important, unadressed catagory.

    1. Todd Fratzel

      John – All valid things to consider. While not a specific category, we took into account the slide mechanisms in our overall evaluation. The Bosch leads that category followed by Festool. The vertical cut capacity was very similar on all models, the basic limiting factor is the blade size. Thanks for the feedback!

  5. IanRose

    I have had a lot of sliding saws over the 23 years I have been using them. I just purchased the Kapex the first of Feb , I would not put those other 10′ saws in the same room as the Kapex. The engineering involved in making that saw is unprecedented in everyway .

  6. Pierre Grégoire

    The Bosch CM10GD is describe as a poor dust collection system.
    In your video we see the Bosch CM10GD making two cuts.

    The second cut, with the classic and never efficient bag on any miter saw I know.
    Result, a lot of dust flying around.

    The first cut, with some dust collection hooked to the saw.
    A lot more efficient.

    As for all other cuts on the six other saw, there is always a dust collector connected to them

  7. Weston

    Hello,

    I was wondering if you have tested the newer Canadian Tire Maximum dual bevel saw either the 10″ or 12″Please see link below. I have tried the older models but I wasn’t a big fan of the accuracy.

    http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/maximum-dual-bevel-sliding-mitre-saw-12-in-0556768p.html

    Thank you

    1. Todd Fratzel

      We have not….haven’t seen it here in the US.

  8. Benjamin Lane

    Excellent overall review. As an owner of three of these saws (Bosch, DeWalt, and Festool) I can say quite confidently the Festool is the best. The lasers (which up until this saw I always viewed as a gimmick) on both sides of the blade are remarkably accurate once calibrated. Dust collection with their CT 36 (amazing in itself) is by far the best of the lot, and makes remodels much less stressful on homeowners. It can be placed tight up against a wall, which is another big deal to remodelers who often have to work in spaces not ideally suited.

    The one thing I would love to see included in the review was the overall mobility of the rigs. Back in the day (I am starting to get some gray hairs!) I loved the DeWalt the most simply because it was the only one I could get with a stand at all. Now something like a “gravity rise” stand with the saw permanently mounted is the standard. With that being said, this is where the Kapex REALLY shines. The saw itself is only 47 pounds, and the stand is 46. The Bosch saw is 64 pounds, while the stand is a whopping 77 pounds. It is also (with base) like 52″ wide, while the Kapex is only 36″.

    I am 37 years old now, so the sheer mobility of the Kapex alone is worth it. As I primarily do remodeling, the dust collection is just as important. No more “zip wall” systems need to be set up around the cut station. Features such as variable speed just further the argument for the Kapex. The only thing I really miss is being able to cut 6″ base standing up as I do on the DeWalt 12″, but the compound cuts/laser/zero blade deflection combination is so accurate on the Kapex that I just lay it down with no worries at all. The rip fence was always machined poorly on the DeWalt anyhow, so even if you could cut the base standing up it wouldn’t matter because since the entire fence wasn’t at 90 degrees with the table (unadjustable) the cut wouldn’t be straight, as the entire piece is leaning back slightly.

    The cost of the Kapex and the stand ($888?!?! what?!) is prohibitive for most, but once you bite the bullet you will never go back. Sooner or later every one of us grow from being just a carpenter to a true craftsman and the Kapex is the only saw I have EVER used that gives me the confidence to lay wide ass crown on the flat and it’s going to be perfect. $10/ft wide Clear Maple crown doesn’t afford a carpenter the flexibility to screw up or just slather caulk on the joint like you can get away with on paint grade stuff. If you’re serious about your craft, get the Kapex. Period.

    1. Todd Fratzel

      Thanks Ben…..great feedback.

  9. Rob Rinde

    I looked up the MAXIMUM 12′ saw referenced by the earlier poster as available from Canadian Tire and was intrigued. A further review showed a pdf. instruction manual almost identical to that of the Craftsman saw reviewed in this article. It seems that MAXIMUM also makes a 10″ version which is just like the 10″ reviewed here but with enhanced features; front mounted bevel release, power switch lockout, etc. Who makes these saws (and the Craftsman) and are they available here in the USA under another name. I am thinking of trying to purchase one out of Canada if the exchange rate is favorable.

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